So as most of you know by now both Jacket and Biker will be available in the editor. As I felt that I've come a pretty long way as a pixel artist since 2011 (when I first started out) I wanted to give them an updated look . I redid the shades to look smoother, changed the skin tone to the one I used for the sequel, toned down the colors a bit to fit better with the rest of the graphics of HLM2 (which the editor is based on) and added some neat details, like the torn sleeves on Biker and the collar on Jacket's.. ehh.. jacket.
I also remade all their deaths as I felt that the corpses/gore in HLM2 are a big improvement from the original's.
Bikers new face:
I also added some new graphics, which are hard to show here. But for example Biker can now kill big guys with a special finish (the same way as Tony and Alex), something that he couldn't do in HLM1.
And yes, saying it once again, ALL the masks for Jacket will be in the editor, so I've touched up graphics for the drill and such! :)
ALEX
ASH
COREY
MARK
TONY
Enjoy! //Dennis
Is it coming out soon (:
SvaraRaderaIs it coming out soon (:
SvaraRaderaTony looks so badass
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SvaraRaderaYou said every character will only be able to kill the bad guys he killed in the main game. With jacket and biker not being in the main game: which enemies can they take on?
SvaraRaderathe same guys as they took on in HLM1, so biker vs mafia and jacket vs mafia&police!
RaderaThe quality of your sprite work has increased a lot, and it's especially noticable when comparing the old Jacket and Biker to the new ones. Good work Dennis! Is there any possible chance that Biker's non-beaten up face will be in the editor?
SvaraRaderathanks so much! :)
Raderaand yes, his normal face is gonna be available!
Nice done man! Thanks for the update I don't have a question, so good luck.
SvaraRaderaWill Jacket be getting an unmasked head-sprite, or are you sticking to the first game's attitude of never showing his face?
SvaraRaderaAlso, any word on modding capabilities? Will people be able to edit in new characters and things of the sort?
i am not gonna do face for him cause i don't wanna give him a confirmed canon look!
Raderawe are not creating a sprite editor but there are already working fan made editors for that so i think most of you will be able to create your own stuff!
Will we be able to upload things like character packs to the workshop, or will that be used for custom levels only?
RaderaWill Jacket be getting an unmasked head-sprite, or are you sticking to the first game's attitude of never showing his face?
SvaraRaderaAlso, any word on modding capabilities? Will people be able to edit in new characters and things of the sort?
1.Can add the Enemy Van system?,Like the first game
SvaraRadera2.Can add Jacket or Biker Npc?
( You guys are fantastic,this editor will be the coolest editor ever =P )
And another question
SvaraRadera3.Will add the The Father face sprites and the Npc?
+ with the Jacket mask's will add Russell?
Radera( Sorry for Many question's :c )
1. not at the moment
Radera2. yes you can
3. it's in there!
4. russell is not available (might be an update later on)
Thanks a lot ;)
RaderaA lot of people have also been asking about the port to consoles. You mentioned before that you were doubtful. Any update on that? (I use PS4, but ended up getting a PC just to use the editor).
SvaraRaderastill just PC and it looks like it might stay that way! not sure yet
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RaderaAmazing!
SvaraRadera1.Can i make a custom character?
2.Can i make a custom masks?
1 & 2: no you won't (but there is people making custon sprite editors so one of those might help you)
RaderaOne, more comment: I read on Cactus' blog that he mentioned an "offline-custom-music option." I think that would be really cool. It sucks that you can't put all the music in the editor and have it published on the community server, but an option to make campaigns with my own custom music, without publishing it for the community, would be cool. Everything looks good though. Thanks for making this editor for us. HM is my favorite game, and this editor is never going to die.
SvaraRaderaWill there be a gotta get a grip face sprite?
SvaraRaderaI got a question, Can we kill the Fans (unmasked)?
SvaraRaderaunarmed fans yes! (i made a walk unarmed and unmasked for all of them)
RaderaCool, thanks! for the answer, you guys are great.
RaderaHi, i'm really hyped from now, hopefully it's coming soon :D
SvaraRaderaQuestions :
1- Will we be able to make Jacket kill captives, if people wanna make a Jacket Breakout ?
2- There's gonna be mods for the editor ?
3- After the editor releasing, what you will do ?
1. no, only mafia and police.. like HLM1
Radera2. from us i'm not sure, but from modders i am certain!
3. a new game
Does this mean that The Editor will be open-sourced?
RaderaWhoa, what's up with Tony's chin there?
SvaraRaderait's deadly sharp!
Radera1. Will the thunder/lightning be included in the environmental effects?
SvaraRadera2. Can we have the text at the start of each level that says the address (like NE 185th Street)?
3. Will custom levels have integrated WAD support? This might be something to talk to Abstraction about, but it would probably be the best way to allow custom graphics and music.
4. This last question is a bit complicated, but it has to do with weapon spawns: Supposedly, characters will have any weapon they can use available in their weapon spawns. However, there are limitations on this to prevent characters from performing executions on enemies that don't have those execution animations. But will there be any other restrictions on which weapons are available? For example, could we have the Mafia guns (Silenced Pistol, M16, Kalashnikov, and Double Barrel) spawn for the Fans when fighting Gang members since it wouldn't interfere with any sprites? Also, there are some unused weapon animations in the game files, like Evan firing/unloading the Magnum, and Jake using the Uzi. Will we be able to add those weapon spawns for those characters?
1. no. maybe in an update
Radera2. yes
3. talk to them!:)
4. no, only the weapons they would get fighting them in a story mode level.
Aprox release date? :c PD: Great Work
SvaraRaderaIs Biker the 1989 Biker or is it the 1991 Biker? Asking because Biker has longer hair but no beard and scar unlike how he looks in the bar of broken heroes and his face sprite.
SvaraRaderait's 1989 biker
RaderaWhy did you give him longer hair?
Raderacooler design!
RaderaCan't argue with that, it does somehow fit him more in my opinion.
RaderaIs Biker the 1989 Biker or is it the 1991 Biker? Asking because Biker has longer hair but no beard and scar unlike how he looks in the bar of broken heroes and his face sprite.
SvaraRaderaAll aboard the hype train
SvaraRaderaWill we be able to upload things like characters/sprite packs to the workshop, or will that be used for custom levels only?
SvaraRaderanot sure!
Raderahey can you tell me the level editor release date
RaderaAlso, can you release the new spritesheets early so that us editors can get to work?
SvaraRaderaYou want to edit the sprites? Just search up hotline Miami wad explorer, download it and go to file, open and then go to your hotline Miami files and open hlm2_patch_desktop.wad scroll down and you'll see 2 sprites called atlases/player.biker and atlases/player.jacker highlight one and go to resource at the top and click extract. Do the same for the other one and they should be where ever you extracted them. Then you can edit them
Raderaopen hlm2_patch_desktop.wad with the wad explorer
Radera1. Is there going to be any other updates to HM2 after this is finished? Now that I've seen this, I'm glad it took way longer than expected, it looks amazing!
SvaraRadera2. Also, I ordered the collectors edition thing, will the level editor be in that (not sure whether there will be much point though)?
3. Got any plans for a new game? Some spoilers would be really nice! ;-)
2- The level editor is gonna be a free update so you just got to download it.
Radera1. there might be depending on the feedback and response from all of you:)
Radera2. it's free! will be included in a normal update of the game in a near future!
3. yes! and no, no spoilers! :)
WOW TONY LOOKS SO RAD THANK YOU DENNIS
SvaraRaderayou are welcome!
RaderaSorry, but Ash looks like Miley Cirus.
SvaraRaderaAgain great job with this level editor, take all the time you need.
hahaha XD
RaderaThe unmasked Tony face animation makes part of his hair go away.
SvaraRaderasaw that! as it's says in the beginning.. just a preview!
RaderaHeh, I was actually doing maskless fan sprites. I procrastinated for too long tho, heh. Should I finish them? I think these are good tho, I love Corey's eyebrows.
SvaraRaderaIs there gonna be a healthy Biker face? what other little things do you pan to add? this is exciting.
Yes, there is going to be a non-beaten biker's face.
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SvaraRaderaGreat job i dont really care of how much time i will have to wait for it seems really well done so far :)
SvaraRaderahaha these are awesome! i love that tony apparently only speaks in growls. biker looks tough as hell now too! super badass. thanks for all the hard work dennis & jonatan!!!
SvaraRaderaI find it strange how Ash has a girl's lips. I think he should look more like this:
SvaraRaderahttp://i.imgur.com/BIczLY4.gif
The rest of the Fans look perfect, though! Thanks for these sprites.
Will the Police be able to use M16s? Because I sent Jonatan M16 sprites for Pardo, the cops (Search, Walk and Attack), and the Pig Butcher.
SvaraRaderano they won't.. not as of now at least
RaderaIs it possible we could get a glimpse of Biker's regular face sprite?
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SvaraRaderaDEAR GOD IS BIKER A WOMAN. THIS CHANGES THE STORY SO MUCH.
SvaraRaderaAND ashes face wants to make me kill myself to death till I'm dead
IF IT HAS FEMALE TYPE HAIR OR FACE ITS A WOMAN HOLY FUCKING SHIT
RaderaIs Coreys full name Not I. Mportant? :p
SvaraRaderaThe sprites are amazing but one thing is really bugging me (not really big thing though)
SvaraRaderahttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/hotline-miami/images/7/7a/Bikerface.png/revision/latest?cb=20150630200547 <--- Biker's eyes are blue in the first game but green now.
So is this an oversight (forgetting that he had blue eyes in HM1) or did you do it on purpose? Just want to know this but the sprites are amazing
mistake by me! they are of course suppose to be blue!
RaderaThe level editor will have Martin Brown's actor attire to be used in the middlegame part (gameplay part) or he's only gonna use that sweaty tanktop?
SvaraRaderaP.S: Which characters can be played in the middlegame part unmasked and which characters can be used unmasked in cutscenes?
I'm hoping for this level editor to release soon. The hype is real >.>
the butcher has the gameplay sprite.
RaderaI mean Martin attacking with his actor suit and not the butcher one...
Raderain the alpha, only the butcher is avaible, and i think it stays that way:
Raderahe would have to redraw every sprite with the actor suit.
1. Can Russian Mafia spawn with the Silenced Pistol?
SvaraRadera2. Will we be able the place the destructible barriers from Demolition?
Man, I didn't even think of that. The destructible barriers would be amazing. I hope that is included.
RaderaWill Biker be able to enter cars that arent his bike? Its a stupid question but I really want to know
SvaraRaderaBiker is The Driver confirmed :O
Raderain the alpha you can hack that sorta thing, just edit the .obj file (it contains all the objects on the map)
Raderahey can you tell me the level editor release date
SvaraRaderaAnd could you stop spamming and wait ? They're doin a bloody work on this, dont be impatient
RaderaI dont know if anyone ever said something about this big Thing im gonna ask.
SvaraRaderaBut mostly ive seen answers about this only say: "i dont know", "maybe in the future", "maybe???"
So im gonna ask if you Support the PS3,PS4 and PS Vita too ?? If not i would be huge dissapointed that after such great game you would let down another big slice of your fanbase who dont Play on the pc that much.
One selling Point of the game for me was the Editor, especially as it was originally announced that it would also release for Consoles and also for my PS Vita, as im mostly on the run this would be too cool but since the release and the delays of the Editor im losing hope on this...
I would like to hear a good answer or official Statement if i should Keep waiting or if you just not Support the consoles and handeld for the Editor ( which would be a huge dissapointment )
Also if you let down your fellow console fanbase then let us give the oporttiunity to get a free steam code so we can Play the game on a Plattform where we KNOW we get the Editor.
RaderaThere wont be editor on the consoles, but they'll sell packages with edited levels. It was already told
RaderaCan you tell me your sources for this ? I dont know where this where told or why they do this. This is just a huge letdown and im dissapointed as many other console fans are.
RaderaI have some questions:
SvaraRadera1. Can we play as the fans unmasked?
2. Will I be able to make the player hold a weapon at the start of the level?
Why did you recycle ellen's face for the biker?
SvaraRaderahttp://hotlinemiami.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ellen.png
They're obviousley the same, and this explains why biker's eyes are green instead of blue.
Can you please let Biker look like a male?
Recycling is fine, but recycling a female face to make a male one is bad.
Also, the action figure looks different
Raderahttps://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/045/887/c20bcfc848e1db6b906014d7e5698cdd_original.jpg?v=1435264769&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=3f2d1e3ccb0b9283ac0e614d1946a100
Can Biker throw knives while he's in the middle of executing a fat guy (like how Ash could shoot while Alex is in the process of killing a fat guy) or is he completely open to attack?
SvaraRaderaPlease include the destructible walls!
SvaraRaderaany new update
SvaraRaderaAny new update on you shutting up?
RaderaStop spamming.
yeah we're all impatient as hell and you aren't speeding up anything being revealed. At least ask real questions, like when people were asking about bikers '89 face, or asking about jacket fighting cops, etc. etc.
RaderaCan Jacket wear no mask at all? Asking cause you went through the trouble of adding hair to everyone of his sprites unlike what you did with Hotline Miami 1 because he's always wearing a mask so no hair was added to his other sprites.
SvaraRaderaDennis said he wont' make Jacket's canon face yet.
RaderaCan Jacket wear no mask at all? Asking cause you went through the trouble of adding hair to everyone of his sprites unlike what you did with Hotline Miami 1 because he's always wearing a mask so no hair was added to his other sprites.
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SvaraRaderaSo I readed that that you said you are not going to do Jacket's face yet, Does that mean he is going to have a canon face someday, and that it wasn't a secret after all?
SvaraRaderaSorry if my question is too stupid but I really need to know.
I have a couple of questions: 1) Will we be able to use Biker's 1991 era face and/or model? And 2) What is The Fan's relation to their hideout? Is it owned by one of them or owned by a friend, or did they take it by force?
SvaraRaderaIf people could read a little before asking a question that has been answered millions of time Dennis could save time for real questions and Dennis said he is not going to reveal secrets of the game, and sorry i I was rude but it's true.
RaderaAnd no the face of Biker is the 1989.
If I'm wrong with something please tell someone tell me.
I'm pretty sure knowing who owned the hideout isn't exactly a secret. It's like how they said the Fans stole their van from an impound lot. There was no reference to that anywhere in the game but they still told us anyway. Also for the Biker model and face I was referring to using them in cut scenes.
RaderaOkay but next time explain better your questions like the Biker one you could've said that (In cutscenes) so, I'm sorry.
RaderaMaybe we back to Richter his abbility "Start with silence uzi"?
SvaraRaderaJacket's Rat mask will get this ability.
RaderaRichter Berg, on the other hand, will not.
I hope that I answered your question correctly...
My hope was destroyed......
Raderaumm... Can we use HLM1 musikk in the editor? I want to use it for the Fans!
SvaraRaderaNo we can´t
RaderaHowever, they said that whether or not we get more updates has to do with fan feedback. A music update after the editor is possible, but I would think unlikely.
RaderaIt's a legal issue. Because Dennis and Jonatan didn't compose the music themselves they need to get permission from the artists to use their music again, and when you combine the hassle of contacting them all with all the other work they're doing on the editor, and possibly having to rework the music selection part of the editor, it would take a fairly irritating amount of work I suppose. It's unfortunate but not something I think fans should be hassling them to work on bringing back.
SvaraRaderaI'd LOVE to see hydrogen in this
RaderaCan we use Jacket walking without any mask?
SvaraRaderaUnrelated question but, Have you play Terraria?
Can i play in Level Editor as 1991 Biker?
SvaraRaderaI think the only way to imply which version of Biker is being used is to use the '89 or '91 face in a cutscene, and write what year the level takes place in the intro where it says the place, time, and date.
RaderaNow I'm hyped even more ! Great work on those sprites ! I've got some questions
SvaraRadera1. You've said that you won't make Jacket's face sprite. That's fine, but can we atleast have tape recorder sprite :D ?
2. Can we make levels with bosses ? Like in HM 1 level Neighbors.
2-No you won't.
RaderaHey Dennaton Games, will there be 'execution scenes?' like make jacket grab someones eyes and rips it off?
SvaraRaderaI think they already said no to that execution, the one I remember that is well know is the hostage execution is not going to be in the editor.
Raderaawww but that was my favorite part of the game :(
RaderaHi Dennaton, looking forward to this editor, must ask though will the editor have future updates i.e Biker being able to fight the Columbians and police? once again very excited for this
SvaraRaderathere WILL be later updates like making custom masks, but i'm not sure about enemies sorry.
RaderaThe custom masks sounds awesome, hopefully they may touch on enemies, the potential of this editor looks overwhelming!
Radera...Can you guys upload more snapshot? (or not)
SvaraRaderaEvery second spent showing us the editor is a second not being used to release the editor if that's any consolation to you,
Raderasad day :(
RaderaI have two important questions dennis! Huge hotline miami fan btw,love the games:
SvaraRadera1.Will biker be able to kill fat guys? (the guys who's only weakness is tony's fists and bullets)
because of course biker keeps his cleaver/can't pick up guns,maybe will he be able to use his throwing knives on them?It's important because i'm gonna make a campaign centered around biker.
2.Say I wanted to make a cutscene that had jacket be in his apartment,would there be an option (in the cutscene editor) to select a..."template" level,which is just a pre-made level (as in levels that appear in the regular game)so that instead of trying really hard to re-create his apartment,i could just select his apartment from a list of already-made in-game levels? I hope you understand what i'm getting at here. Please answer both,thanks very much!
Biker can kill fat guys, please read before you ask something.
RaderaNo he can't,that's why in the first game none of the biker's levels had the fat guys in it.
Radera:\ unless somewhere on this page it says that in the editor he will be able to.if then,alrighty.
Oh wow it does say he can,goddamnit.Well i should be happy now knowing that anyways. :\\\\\
RaderaYes please also check his twitter and other questions in other blog posts in this page, so the creators don't waste their time in questions like yours.
RaderaThank you and sorry if I sounded rude.
That 5th bed in the tent does have something in common with an certain secret, right?
SvaraRaderaI sense that a certain guy is connected to that bed too...
RaderaWhat tent are you talking about, because I'd be interested in seeing what you're talking about,
RaderaIf there is a secret they are not going to spoil it they want us to discovered without any tip form them.
RaderaThat's why I love this game.
I see that you are trying to get my drift, but it's still confused... but don't worry! The tent that I'm talking about is in a place whose space and time is an 'mess' aswell...
RaderaIf you still didn't get that... well... let's just say that this 'mess' was really big 2 times in real life...
(Sorry if I'm being enigmatic. That's because if I'll be frank and right on the money about certain secret, the surprise would be over...)
I think I may be catching on, but still not sure lol
RaderaWell I found a difference in two versions of the same room, if that's what you're trying to pinpoint here, and it could be connected to a certain guy because of how the object that was different was positioned... But if what I'm talking about is different then let me know and I'll just tell you wtf I'm talking about
RaderaI think that's not it, I didn't catch your thought very well...
RaderaWe need to collect the pieces, but in an specific time, because you come 'n' type (19:32 or 07:32 PM) while I'm sleeping (maybe 03:32 (AM)), so it's kinda hard to gather thoughts that way...
P.S: Maybe someother place to encouter is good too...
RaderaDo u mean the Tents with the five (later four) beds in Ambush and Casualities?
RaderaI don't see a bed in Casualties, screenshot please.
RaderaI think he mean this beds
Raderahttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=517092146
Thanks man!
RaderaBut i still don´t know what John realy means. There is just one more bed in de intro of Ambush what could imply that there is a fifth solider who died or was sent back.
RaderaBesi's explanation is the only one that makes sense to me. The character wouldn't be dead though, as Dennis has confirmed the character is in the game. The fifth solider would have most likely been sent home if this theory is correct.
RaderaGo on with that... You are in the right path.
RaderaWell if we asume the fifth solider was sent home and is in the game we must saw him somewhere. He isn´t a member of the russians or the columbians so i assume that this guy ur talking about ist the Spokesman/Manager
RaderaWhat if the fifth soldier is the secret character, and let's read the comics again maybe the soldier is hidden in somewhere the soldier comic (I know is not canon but still)
RaderaI read it some days ago, i cant remember a fifth solider
RaderaLet's check out every corner of the comics maybe he is somewhere.
RaderaThe Character have to be in the game, so we better search there, also i couldn´t find a fifth solider in the comics. John could tell us what he is thinking x:
RaderaMaybe in the editor as I said before, and let's have the chat in other place, Shall we?
RaderaHe is the secret Character, yes... But he's not in the comic.
RaderaI would say that his first apparition was before the scene Ambush, in a "messy" place. You have to use your eye only for that secret person.
(Yes, I love to be enigmatic and, as stated before, we need to discuss that in an other place. How about Chatzy?)
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RaderaYour youtube it is, then... Just check it.
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SvaraRaderaHey Dennis!! i have a question for you!! i hope you can answer it!
SvaraRaderawell.. Tony's eyes will be orange?? because as we see in the collector's edition wallpaper (http://www.hardcoregamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/HLM2_CE_3-747x309.jpg this image) in the middle of the image we can see tony's eyes, and it's colour is green! so i'd have that doubt.
I hope you can answer it!! Thanks for every second you took in the making of this great game! it's my favorite one!
Greetings from Chile!
The son was high AF in that art, I wouldn't be surprised if the drugs effected how he saw Tony's eye color.
RaderaThis is awesome, I will buy the game on Steam as soon as I get my payment.
SvaraRaderaI feel guilty for playing the cracked version now. This definetely worth the price.
Don't know if this has been said but on the last Jacket death sprite the collar isn't brown its yellow.
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RaderaCorrection for myself it's brown and yellow.
Raderapls dennaton
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RaderaI really hope you guys try to get i ton Xbox One.
SvaraRaderaNo console for the last time they are just going to add levels from the community.
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SvaraRaderaFirst, I just want to say how big a goddamn fan I am of the Hotline Miami series. I love the games, and I just really love how much effort you've put into the games to make them as good as possible.
SvaraRaderaNow, for my questions.
1: Who is your favorite of the Fans?
2: Will we be able to choose which of the city backgrounds in the intro for the level? Y'know, when you see the title for the level, and can we choose our own VHS cases?
3: And is it possible to lock the level to a certain character, or leave it open to the player can choose any character?
Thank you for your time.
3. Locking to a certain character (such as a single fan, or one of Jake's single masks), Cactus has said maybe he could tinker with it.
RaderaThe option to leave it open for the player to select any character will not be available because let's say you design a level with Russian Mafia as the enemy. This issue is caused by the whole "certain characters can only face certain enemies," problem.
1-Dennis' favorite fan is Tony, proof: https://www.reddit.com/r/HotlineMiami/comments/331up5/i_am_dennis_wedin_of_dennaton_games_ama/
Radera2-Yes you can custom the VHS cases
3-I think Cactus said he might try add it.
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SvaraRaderaWill you be able to kill the teenagers from Midnight Animal with pig butcher?
SvaraRaderaWill you be able to kill the teenagers from Midnight Animal with pig butcher?
SvaraRaderaso even the ps3 exclusive russell mask be in the editor ?
SvaraRaderaI have lot questions but these arena ones i want to ask:1.Can we make our story mode
SvaraRadera2.is there going to be htlm 1 music
3.why is black guy same for mafia and colombians(black,purple)
I have lot questions but these arena ones i want to ask:1.Can we make our story mode
SvaraRadera2.is there going to be htlm 1 music
3.why is black guy same for mafia and colombians(black,purple)
Please wisit the new post and all the questions are already told, but..
Radera1:Yes
2:Likely no (Because Copyright reasons)
3: Who cares? Maybe because they didn't have time for make a different sprite.
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