tisdag 3 november 2015

Editor Update: QA session

Hey everyone!

So here comes a small update on the editor.

For the last two weeks the editor has been in proper QA session with Testtronic. They have done a solid job which lead to us having quite a lot of bugs to fix. There were more than we had hoped for but glad we found them now so they are fixed till you get to play with it.
  
The bugs we found are not only small mistakes but a lot of stuff that keeps crashing the game or fucking with performance. Stuff like that is never fun for a beta, I mean it should be as stable as possible.

The testing will continue for two more weeks and we +Abstraction will keep fixing bugs and errors that are discovered.

Sadly this means you'll have to wait a bit longer... I know, I know. Making an editor was a bigger task than we could have ever imagined and it feels terrible that we have pushed the release date so many times now. We are sorry for that and we apologize that the time frame turned out to be unrealistic.  But in the end and what is most important for us is that we make sure that the tool we release is something we can stand for and be proud of.

The editor is not canceled, it's not dead, it's not too big of a project to complete.. it's just not quite were it needs to be. But it will be!:)

I hope you can understand! I will have a new update for you in two weeks when the testing is over!

Thanks for sticking with us and for being exited about the editor! It helps when it's been straight uphill for a quite a while now!

Peace // Dennis

94 kommentarer:

  1. Just having a solid date for it to be released would be so great, idc if it's in beta, We can't test it for you guys... This is killing me.

    SvaraRadera
  2. Well! Thanks for the Update guys!Keep the good work and good luck!Love ya

    SvaraRadera
  3. Well! Thanks for the Update guys!Keep the good work and good luck!Love ya

    SvaraRadera
  4. Is it true Dennaton could release the editor right now in beta as you have said but Abstraction is holding it until it's "finished". Because they can't understand that community can help with the bugs?

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. No this is a decision we made together with Abstraction. The bugs we found are not like small mistakes but are stuff that keeps crashing the game or fucking with performance. Stuff like that is never fun for a beta, I mean it should work and be as stable as possible and just have minor in game issues or tweaks requirements. At least that is how we see it:) Hope you understand!

      Radera
    2. I understand. Is there a relase date? will we get some more screenshoots?

      Radera
    3. Next update will be in two weeks. That is all I can say for now.

      Radera
  5. Ok so i ask a true question:
    Custom music support ?

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. No, sorry! We can't monitor so that people aren't using music that the creator wouldn't be ok with!

      Radera
    2. Dennis, enabling the use of custom MP3s in your software is 100% legal. There's no way you'll get in trouble. Look around some of Jonatan's earlier blog posts; a ton of people have sent him links to copyright laws and nowhere is it proven that you could get in trouble for this--the opposite is proven, in fact.

      Radera
    3. Dennis, enabling the use of custom MP3s in your software is 100% legal. There's no way you'll get in trouble. Look around some of Jonatan's earlier blog posts; a ton of people have sent him links to copyright laws and nowhere is it proven that you could get in trouble for this--the opposite is proven, in fact.

      Radera
  6. Will it have steam workshop support so we can upload and download user created levels from there?

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. It will! For the upcoming beta it will be disabled at first because if something major needs to be fixed with the code levels might stop working! But the final version will have full support!

      Radera
  7. I love you so much Dennis(not gay)


    P.S maybe

    SvaraRadera
  8. Just a Question...So How will Player access the Level Editor?...Like a Update Or?..

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. we update the core game and then you access it from the game menu!

      Radera
  9. 1. There were a few furniture items missing from the alpha since they weren't under Atlases/Sprites/Furniture. For example, a lot of arcade machines under Atlases/Sprites/ArcadeMachines, and the golf bag under Atlases/Boss_Bear.png. Will these be in the final version?
    2. Will we be able to use any .ogg file in the game as music, even ones that aren't on the official soundtrack like Hotline3.ogg, Pursuit.ogg, Videodrome.ogg, YouAreTheBlood.ogg, and ZebraBackground.ogg? I know Pursuit is just Bloodline, but it would be helpful to have for modding purposes.
    3. Can we use all the walls and doors under Atlases/Sprites/Walls that were missing in the alpha? Such as the grey doors and unbreakable windows.

    Thanks for taking the time to make the editor as good as possible. Having to wait this long is a bit of a drag, but I'd much rather wait for a good feature than get a bad one right away.

    SvaraRadera
  10. 1. Some sprites have special code that are used at specific places in the main game. These will not be in the editor as they only work when they are in the right environment/character/situation.
    2. Not all of them.
    3. Not at the moment.

    thanks for understanding :)

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. I understand the point you made about the furniture items, and the missing walls/doors could clutter up the build tab, but is there any particular reason we can't use all the music in the game?

      Radera
  11. Thank you so much for updating! Take all the time you need ;)
    I have a few questions if you are OK with answering them
    1. Will the Pig Butcher be able to use the Double Barrel against cops?
    2. Will the remixed versions of Remorse and Le Perv be available to set as the music for the level?
    3. Can i put the innocent people from the tutorial in a pig butcher level?

    thanks

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. Glad you understand :)
      here are the answers:
      1. Yes
      2. No
      3. No, they all have very specific code that only work if they are in the right place (that is the tutorial)

      Radera
  12. Have you made new levels that come with the level editor?

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. Not with the Beta but the plan is to do some later! We will give you video tutorials tough so you can see how it all work!

      Radera
    2. Awesome! Thanks for replying.

      Radera
    3. Hey hate to bother you again but will the workshop have support for skins? By that I mean if someone made a reskin to make Manny wear a hat for example could we upload that to the workshop for people to download and use? Stupid question and if possible would probably be a hassle to implement but just curious.

      Radera
    4. That is a harder question that I can't answer right now. But I think ("I think" not "I know"!:) that you should be able to add files in the folders (such as a reskin file that people can use to change the game).

      Radera
    5. That would be really cool, thanks Dennis!

      Radera
  13. Nice, Dennis :D

    Don't fret. I think the real fans understands the delays. We just have to wait and hope to get the LE as fast, but as easy as you can. Then later, rest yourself, 'cause you very probably need it...

    SvaraRadera
  14. Don't worry about the delay guys. I can only imagine how much work you've put into this and even after so much time you've stuck with quality over quantity. Take all the time you need. Oh, and I figured I'd ask a few quick questions since you're still here:

    1. Can you use any music, that's in the game of course, in any kind of level? For example, "Dust" in an action level or "Voyager" in a scene level?

    2. Can jacket do his rip and tear and body shield like in the first game?

    3. Will there be any extra music in the editor that never made it to the game? For example, the music used in your trailers?

    That's pretty much it. Love you guys btw and love your games. You are wicked game developers and don't let anyone tell you otherwise :D

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. Thanks :)

      1. yes you can
      2. He can rip and tear but not human shield.
      3. Not at the moment.

      Take care!

      Radera
    2. Thank you very much. Best of luck with the editor ;D

      Radera
  15. Ok so i ask a true question:
    Custom music support ?

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. Already answered. Try looking for your question is answered before you ask it.

      Radera
  16. 1. Will the taxi be available as Evan's vehicle? He uses it in First Trial and the intro to The Abyss.
    2. In the alpha, the only fat enemies we could use in Soldier levels were the ones with MP5s. Will we also be able to use the ones with knives?

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. 1. Yes
      2. No (Atleast in the alpha level editor)

      Radera
  17. I understand. Better late than never.

    SvaraRadera
  18. id like to ask if the russell mask will be in the editor for jacket
    and the hammer will be an trowable or an melee for any character or just of the pig butcher ?

    SvaraRadera
  19. Will The fans be able to fight the russian mobsters? since they do it on deathwish, but in the alpha editor they didn't appear.

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. He said the only characters players wont fight with the people already in the games (like how pardo fights gangsters,police,columbians,etc) is Richter with prisoners and guards

      Radera
  20. Dennis I just appreciate your hard work and all...

    1-Can I put unarmed enemies? (that grab a weapon when they see one)
    Unnecessary question- Are you going to play fans' levels

    Take a big break after this and I don't care about the delays I understand, you need time.

    SvaraRadera
  21. Hello, there will be steam trading cards? I want to have a decent looking Hotline Miami 2 Badge on my profile.

    SvaraRadera
  22. Woo! Glad there's an update on this! Got some questions though:

    1. Will there be a cap at how many enemies you can put in a level? Dead Ahead had 90, which was pretty cool.

    2. Will there be mods available i.e. I think you mentioned that levels will be in the steam workshop, would fan-made character skins be available as well?

    3. Can you force a player to only play with one mask i.e. just Dallas or just Rami?

    4. Do you have plans for steam trading cards?

    5. Do you know the status of the collector's edition, they said something in the comments about export problems but there hasn't been a definite update...

    Again, really happy this, I wouldn't mind waiting 2 months more if it came to it, as I'm going with the idea that the longer it takes, the better it will be. So ignore the guys in the comments demanding the editor immediately, they don't get how long this stuff can take to get it perfect, especially with something like this.

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. 1. They havent clarified that yet.
      2. Dennis said that he thinks that in some future you can just add files into the hotline miami 2 folder to do re-skins and such things like that.
      4. No
      Thats all of the questions i could answer . I hope that helped :D

      Radera
  23. I know that making the levels can only be done on the PC version of the game,(which is why I bought it again on PC) but can you browse levels on the consoles? What I mean is can you play published levels on consoles?

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. He said some time ago that the consoles will receive level packs made by the community on PC, but i don't think it will be possible to browse levels on console because the levels will be published through the steam workshop.

      Radera
  24. Is this for PC only or is it for the PS4/PS3 players as well?

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. Only for pc . But they will make level packs for the ps3 / Ps4 Version

      Radera
  25. Dennis despite this taking longer than it needs to be i'll give you one thing:
    You and Jon have been working on this since long before the game came out. You could've taken the money and ran but, you didn't. A lot of devs don't stay this long and for that I salute you.

    But, anyways:

    1.Since the idea for Custom music is unavailable then what about working with the community and artists to release some music DLC? or better yet, what happened to the idea of offline music?

    2.This is pretty much a little late to ask this but, you received a question regarding having the option to play as only one of the fans or only use special item in the selection for certain characters. Will It be possible to do the exact opposite? Like if I wanted to add Jacket in with one of his masks with the fans or make a group of characters to choose from for a select level? (jake,biker,richter,evan)<-something like that?

    I'm excited for what you guys have in store for the future.Sorry to bombard that bombarded you with two questions.Take care and enjoy your break once you're done.

    SvaraRadera
  26. wow and why do you say late next month!

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. He said if it all goes to plan, which unfortunately it did not, but at least we got an update.

      Radera
  27. Hello there.
    I ... ill just go straight to it, I fully understand that you're taking your time. Just dont delay the update news in two weeks time! Many will spam again for it haha

    Anyway, good luck you two

    SvaraRadera
  28. Q: is it crashing a lot less frequently than the alpha editor?

    thanks for all your hard work

    SvaraRadera
  29. take your time dennis. I would rather have a finished product rather than a buggy and rushed one. Me and (I hope) everyone else want's you to make it the best you can. I personally can't wait until you finish it, not exactly because I want to play it( I have HM2 on Ps4 anyways), but I want to start seeing what other great work you can do. Keep on chugging.

    SvaraRadera
  30. take your time dennis. I would rather have a finished product rather than a buggy and rushed one. Me and (I hope) everyone else want's you to make it the best you can. I personally can't wait until you finish it, not exactly because I want to play it( I have HM2 on Ps4 anyways), but I want to start seeing what other great work you can do. Keep on chugging.

    SvaraRadera
  31. Will the destructible walls be in the editor?

    SvaraRadera
  32. Dude, take ALL the time you need to make this bad boy. If I wait a long time for HM 2 Wrong Number, I can wait for this. Don't you worry.
    Hey, can I ask a question? Are you guys planning of making possible to use custom sprites in the Level Editor, in the future? Because, I have a friend that have a AWESOME Hotline Miami story called The Patriots (he even made some custom sprites for the characters, and he have talent). So I wanted to know if it is still possible because I want to see my friend's sotry as a campaing in the game. I don't care about how much time it will take to do it, you guys can take all the time you want, I just want to know if you guys CAN do it (and if you guys can't, it's cool, you already giving us this badass Level Editor).
    Thanks for reading this. Peace, Hermanos.

    SvaraRadera
  33. Hello Dennis

    The level editor will be available on ps3, ps4 and vita?

    Me and my brother have both games on our ps3, ps4

    Cheers from France. Thanks you for everything

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. He said that the Editor will be PC only, but consoles will recieve level packs.

      Radera
  34. Will we be able to make a level with limited mask?
    ex: level with only 'dallas' mask.
    (sorry 4 my poor english)

    SvaraRadera
  35. Thanks for updating, I can't wait for the editor. Btw i want to ask if you going to add some new achievementz (e.g Make 5 levels etc.)?

    SvaraRadera
  36. It's a shame this wont come out on consoles but atleast we'll get some extra levels.
    But can you please release three levels? One for jacket, one for biker, and one for that secret character for console players? Atleast so we have something on release, thanks for working hard at the editor, I respect you guys alot.

    SvaraRadera
  37. Hi! I have 2 questions:
    1) Will the editor be for mac and linux?
    2) Is there a non-canon face I can use for jacket, if I wanted to make him talk?

    Hope the editor is going along well!

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. 2- Cactus said they won't do a Jacket's face

      Radera
  38. Ive used a wad explorer to look at Jacket and Bikers new sprites for the level editor. It looks like all of Jackets animations are done with him maskless, is this an option now to play as Jacket without a mask? Or is it just like that for different reasons.

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. Dennaton did that to just apply the mask that you choose instead of changin' the sprite sheet everytime you change masks. The same was made to Jake.

      I hope I answered you well...

      Radera
  39. why hM3 is a joke it is not april fools

    SvaraRadera
  40. What is happening withe the level packs for ps vita / ps4

    SvaraRadera
  41. Hey Dennis,
    just a question, will MOTHERFUCKING WEREWOLF ASSO music be in the level editor?
    I like the music ;)
    gud luck on da editor bruh!

    SvaraRadera
  42. I have 3 questions (ayy richard lmao) to ask you guys, so when you have the time I would love answers pls:

    Will we have Prisoner/Guard Richter?
    Shipping crate floors like in Dead Ahead?
    Colombians that only shoot when spotted (like in Dead Ahead)?

    SvaraRadera
  43. Hello , dennis great job with the level editor so far . I want to ask you some questions

    1. Whats the floor limit?
    2. How large is the size limit of the maps ?
    3. Will you guys allow the fake maps? for example "Rate 5 and reset to see corey naked"
    Thanks and after this please both of you take a long vacation .

    SvaraRadera
  44. Sup Dennis, I've got a question for you.
    Will we be able to have customize music for our level(s)?

    SvaraRadera
  45. I have no rush as to other people, I know it will work great and will get me to play over and over again yout absolutely great game. I've already done almost all achievements in steam for the game but I have patience because I know sometimes you have to wait for quality. So keep it up guys! :)

    SvaraRadera
  46. I'm glad to see the extra progress =) Looking forward to the release xx

    SvaraRadera
  47. Modding & workshop support, please?

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. there is already modding support, something WAD patch, I really don't know
      they already confirmed the workshop

      Radera
  48. Hello Dennis, I have some questions :
    1-Can we just add custom charaters? ( faces and player sprites)
    2-Is making custom textures possible?

    Peace!

    PS: I'm making a DOOM mod "Hotline Miami" themed, one day, I hope you will like it.

    SvaraRadera
    Svar
    1. Den här kommentaren har tagits bort av skribenten.

      Radera
  49. Also will we have the filter that Beards levels use? (Casualties and Stronghold)

    SvaraRadera
  50. 1. Would Simma Hem be in the game if not [insert reson of possible removal] had happned and if so where would it be used?
    2. What is your opinion on modding?
    3. What language is HM programmed in?
    4. Do we get to see who the mystery character is when the beta is out?
    That's all, good luck with the editor!

    SvaraRadera
  51. Thanks Dennis, quick question, will we be able to download and play levels made by other users? also please rethink about the custom music, please.

    SvaraRadera
  52. i really love the way you share on your knowledge about this topic for sure i learn more from here.

    Interactive design

    SvaraRadera